Updated: What the hell? (#Ekos Poll April 25 revisited) #CPC 144, #NDP 107, #LPC 43, #BQ 14 | #elxn41 #cdnpoli #polls41

(Note – A commenter has pointed out I accidentally plugged in the value for Atlantic Canada’s CPC support into Quebec, which threw all my calculations off.  I’ve left the original entry, but I’ve added some corrections in red.)

So I looked more closely at the Ekos poll from April 25 today.  I discovered that there was a flaw in my interpretation of their data.  Ekos reported they had sampled 2783 people; which is fine, and then went on to quote urban areas in a separate part of their tables, along with the sample size coming from that urban area.

Initially, I thought that the chart meant the data was from the province excluding the urban area, and then the urban area on its own.  But I was wrong.  The data combined, in the percentage reported, the urban area as well.

For example, for Quebec, Ekos reported:

BQ: 25.2%   CPC: 28.1%   GRN: 6.4%   LPC: 13.1%   NDP: 38.7%

Correction: CPC should read 14.7%)

Sample size: 716

and for Montreal, they reported:

BQ: 18.8%   CPC: 12.6%    GRN: 8.1%   LPC: 16.3%   NDP: 42.6%

So, for the sake of a seat prediction, since I’m mapping the changes to a geographic area, it is wrong to map the entire province (including Montreal) to the ridings outside of Montreal.  I have to split out the outlying constituencies from the provincial results, which adjusts the various provincial figures.  The outcome is startling.

Remember, nationally, the numbers don’t change:

BQ: 6.2%   CPC: 33.7%   GRN: 7.2%   LPC 23.7%   NDP: 28.0%

However, when you split out the cities from the non-urban areas, the data changes drastically:

Quebec (Including Montreal)
NDP: 38.7%   CPC: 28.1%   BQ: 25.2%   LPC: 13.1%   GRN: 6.4%
Correction: CPC: 14.7%

Montreal
NDP: 42.6%   BQ: 18.8%   LPC: 16.3%   CPC: 12.6%   GRN: 8.1%

Quebec (Excluding Montreal)
NDP: 36.6%   CPC: 36.3%   BQ: 28.6%   LPC: 11.4%   GRN: 5.5%
Correction: CPC: 15.8%

As I expected (and which is what lead me to revisit this poll, and I’ll be using this new information for Ekos polls in the future) the NDP support is mainly concentrated in Montreal, and has increased more modestly outside of Montreal, to the point where the NDP is in a dead heat with the Conservatives.  This could lead to vote-splitting between the NDP and the Bloc Quebecois, electing more Conservative MP’s.

I also split out the results for other provinces where Ekos included urban breakdowns:

Ontario (Excluding Ottawa and Toronto)
CPC: 33.4%   NDP: 30.7%   LPC: 19.6%   GRN: 14.0%

Alberta (Excluding Calgary)
CPC: 58.7%   NDP: 20.8%   LPC: 14.0%   GRN: 5.7%

British Columbia (Excluding Vancouver)
CPC: 34.3%   NDP: 30.9%   LPC: 20.7%   GRN: 13.3%

In our First-Past-The-Post parliamentary democracy, it isn’t regional percentage of support, it is the vote count in each of the 308 individual constituencies, and when forming a government, it is the number of seats in the caucus that matters.

Putting in this new information into my seat prediction algorithm, I come up with the following:

CPC: 160   NDP: 94   LPC: 43   BQ: 11
Correction: CPC: 144   NDP: 107   LPC: 43   BQ: 14

Taking the regional Margin of Error into account, we get a range of seats for each party:

CPC: 159-201   NDP: 13-95   LPC: 43-65   BQ: 11-27   GRN: 0-2 (!!)
Correction: CPC 143-176   NDP: 18-108   LPC: 43-67   BQ: 14-45   GRN: 0-2

This puts the CPC well over the top (oops – it doesn’t) with 159 143 seats minimum, possibly more.  It all depends on the vote distribution; but things are looking very bleak for both Michael Ignatieff and Gilles Duceppe.  I can’t say I’m unhappy about that…

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  • I like what you’re doing. But the CPC is at 14.7% in Québec as a whole in this poll, not 28.1% (that’s the number for Atlantic Canada). Your Québec NDP number is also wrong.

    • CRAP you’re right – on the CPC. I double checked the NDP number, and that one’s okay.

      So, making the change as required, we see this:

      Quebec (Excluding Montreal): NDP: 36.6% BQ: 28.6% CPC: 15.8% LPC: 11.4% GRN: 5.5%

      Which does, unfortunately (for me, anyway) update the national seat counts quite drastically:

      CPC: 144 (Ranges from 143 to 176)
      NDP: 107 (Ranges from 18 108)
      LPC: 43 (Ranges from 43 to 67)
      BQ: 14 (Ranges from 14-45)

      Good catch! (It’s late… I’m a dad… tired… you know how it is)

      • Oh I see. You used the correct NDP Québec number, but just had a typo in the first line where you mention Québec results (you wrote them out twice, and the second time is correct).

        Yeah, I can’t even imagine being a dad yet… And by Albertan standards, somebody my age should probably be married and have a pregnant wife 😛